7 February 2022
When the Lord gave me visions of the heavenly kingdom and its inhabitants, I had several meetings with the souls of saints who had gone to heaven. Some people who are critical of my visions often quote Scripture, claiming that I have sinned before the Lord by talking with the dead, and that my visions are not from the Lord.
One Scripture passage that relates to this topic is Leviticus 20:27:
“A man or a woman who is a medium or is a soothsayer should surely be put to death. They should stone them with rocks, and their blood should be on them.’”
In Deuteronomy, we can also read the following:
When you enter the land Adonai your God is giving you, you are not to learn to do the abominations of those nations. There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through the fire, or a fortune-teller, soothsayer, omen reader, or sorcerer, or one who casts spells, or a medium, a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. (Deuteronomy 18:9-11 TLV)
What is my answer? Does the Lord really forbid us to associate with the dead? What about those heavenly visions in which some people may meet and communicate with the souls of the saints?
“Calling up the dead,” as mentioned in the Scripture passage above, was a common practice among Gentiles at that time. Nowadays they are called necromancers, or mediums. A medium is a person who calls himself an intermediary between the living and the dead. Usually, those who are looking to speak with the spirits of the dead go to a medium.
To imagine the atmosphere of this, we can read in 1 Samuel about King Saul and his trip to the medium of Endor:
When Saul inquired of Adonai, Adonai did not answer, neither by dreams nor by Urim or prophets. Then Saul said to his courtiers, “Find me a woman who is a medium, so I may go to her and inquire through her.” So his courtiers said to him, “Behold, there is a woman that is a medium at En-dor.” So Saul disguised himself, put on other clothes, and went with two other men, and they reached the woman by night. Then he said, “Please conjure up for me a ghost—bring up for me the one I will name to you.” “Look, you know what Saul has done,” she said, “how he has cut off the mediums and spiritists from the land. So why then are you setting a trap for my life to get me killed?” Saul vowed to her by Adonai saying, “As Adonai lives, no punishment will come on you for this thing.” “Whom will I bring up for you?” the woman asked. “Bring me up Samuel,” he said. (1 Samuel 28:6-11 TLV)
Why did Saul turn to a medium? Because the Lord stopped talking to him. Out of his rebellion, Saul decided to call out the dead Samuel. There are various assumptions about whether Samuel really came to him at that moment. Some say that it was an evil spirit, while others say that it was Samuel himself. What does the Scripture say? According to the Bible, Samuel himself appeared to Saul at that moment:
But when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud shriek. Then the woman spoke to Saul saying, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!” “Don’t be afraid!” the king said to her. “What do you see?” The woman said to Saul, “I see a godlike being coming up from the earth.” “What does he look like?” he asked her. “An old man is coming up, and he is wrapped with a robe,” she said. Then Saul knew that it was Samuel, so he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” “I’m in great distress,” Saul answered. “The Philistines are waging war against me, and God has turned away from me—He doesn’t answer me anymore, whether by prophets or by dreams. So I called you up to tell me what I should do.” Samuel said, “So why ask me, since Adonai has turned away from you and become your adversary? (1 Samuel 28:12-16 TLV)
The Scripture clearly says that at that moment, it was the prophet Samuel who appeared, not an evil spirit pretending to be him. We can suspect that the medium did not expect such an appearance of Samuel: "And the woman saw Samuel and screamed loudly." At the same time, Samuel was dissatisfied with what was happening and remarked, "Why are you asking me when the Lord departed from you and became your enemy?"
One question that has been asked is “Can the souls of those who have died speak with the living at all?”
To answer this question, we need to ask another question: what happens to the human soul after death?
And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this judgment… (Hebrews 9:27 TLV)
The rich man asked Abraham to send Lazarus to his brothers. He asked the already deceased Lazarus to go and talk to them about hell. However, even this request was not granted:
“Now there was a rich man dressed in purple and fine linen, living it up in luxury every day. But a poor man named Lazarus had been laid at his gate, covered with sores and longing to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Besides, even the dogs were coming to lick his sores. It happened that the poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. Then the rich man also died and was buried. And from Sheol, as he was in torment, he raised his eyes. And he sees Abraham far off, and Lazarus at his side.”
(Luke 16:19-23 TLV)
In this parable, the Lord spoke about two Jews. One of them went to hell after he died, and the other went to "the bosom of Abraham," or heaven. The rich man saw Lazarus with Abraham, and he wanted to send a message through Lazarus to his brothers, because he cannot do it himself. Why? Hell is a spiritual prison for unsaved souls. A person can leave this prison only by the will of the Lord and for Great White Throne judgment, after which those souls will be thrown into the lake of fire:
Then I saw a great white throne, and the One seated on it. The earth and heaven fled from His presence, but no place was found for them. And I saw the dead—the great and the small—standing before the throne. The books were opened, and another book was opened—the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to what was written in the books, according to their deeds. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Sheol gave up the dead in them. Then they were each judged, each one of them, according to their deeds. Then death and Sheol were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. And if anyone was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15 TLV)
Moreover, those dead saints who were with Abraham, even if they wanted to, could not go to hell, and also, souls cannot go from hell to heaven.
Besides all this, between us and you a great chasm is firmly set, so that those who want to cross over to you cannot, nor can those from there cross over to us.
(Luke 16:26 TLV)
Yeshua often shared with His disciples the revelations of the kingdom of Heaven and the spiritual world. They were often in the form of parables and figurative pictures.
Some people may be surprised to find out that Yeshua is the author of the Revelation, for He was the one who gave it to the apostle John.
“Then the rich man said, ‘I beg you then, Father Abraham, send Lazarus to my father’s house! For I have five brothers to warn, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ “But Abraham says, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets. Let them listen to them.’ “But he said, ‘No, Father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “But Abraham said, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced even if someone rises from the dead!’” (Luke 16:27-31 TLV)
Some believers claim that the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is just a fictional story that in reality did not exist. However, this parable is the only one where the Lord calls one of its participants by name. Yeshua did not tell lies, He did not invent fables, and He did not tell fairy tales. If He said that there was such a person by the name of Lazarus, and that such a story happened to him, then it means that it is true.
So we come to the conclusion that:
- The souls of people after death go either to heaven or hell and have no opportunity to return to earth, unless the Lord sends them.
- The souls imprisoned in hell cannot contact people living on earth, including mediums or necromancers.
- The souls of saints will not communicate with mediums or necromancers unless the Lord sends them. (This is not a frequent occurrence, as we see with the story with Samuel).
Then the question arises: with whom then do necromancers communicate, and with what spirits of the dead are mediums in contact with?
To some extent, the answer can be found in the book of Enoch:
And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling.
Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called.
As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]
And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. (Enoch ch. 15:8-11 Ethiopian version)
Not many realize that what we call demons or evil spirits are the spirits of the deceased Nephilim, or giants, and their descendants. This is a separate kind of evil creature. There are fallen angels, which originated in heaven; however, demons or demonic spirits are of earthly origin. They once lived on earth in the flesh and then died, but the Lord left some on earth and did not send them to a spiritual prison. In this regard, one can understand the Lord's conversation with evil spirits:
For Yeshua commanded the defiling spirit to come out of the man. For many times it had seized him so that, even though he was restrained and bound with chains and shackles, he would break the chains and be driven by the demons into the desert. Yeshua questioned him, “What is your name?” “Legion,” he said, for many demons had entered him. They kept begging Him not to command them to depart into the abyss. Now a large herd of pigs was feeding on the mountain. The demons urged Yeshua to let them enter these pigs, and He gave them permission. Then the demons came out of the man and entered into the pigs. The herd rushed down the cliff into the lake and was drowned. (Luke 8:29-33 TLV)
The abyss is a prison for fallen angels and demons. If anyone is in it, then they do not leave from there, unless the Lord sends His angels to open it.
Then the fifth angel trumpeted, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth. The key to the bottomless pit [abyss] was given to him. He opened the pit, and smoke rose from the pit like the smoke of a gigantic furnace. The sun and the air were darkened by the smoke from the pit. Then from the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given to them like the scorpions have power over the earth. They were told to do no harm to the grass of the earth or any green plant or any tree, but only the people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. (Revelation 9:1-4 TLV)
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the abyss and a great chain. He seized the dragon—the ancient serpent, who is the devil and satan—and bound him for a thousand years. He also threw him into the abyss and locked and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed. After these things, he must be released for a short while. (Revelation 20:1-3 TLV)
As we see again, both hell and the abyss are spiritual prisons, from which there is no free exit. Only the evil spirits of dead giants (Nephilim) and their descendants are still on the earth for a while. It is with these spirits that mediums and necromancers communicate.
However, the question arises, why do they call themselves the spirits of deceased relatives or other people? Where did they get enough information about the lives of individuals to trick the people seeking to contact those who have died?
To answer this question, we need to look at who evil spirits are, what their role in people’s lives is and how they manage to deceive even the smartest people in the world.
In the past, these spirits had physical bodies and lived on earth. They were a special race on earth and had different abilities. They freely entered the spiritual world of angels and possessed the power of witchcraft and spiritual manifestations. Some of them were stronger spiritually than others. Many on earth have lived long lives, thereby enriching themselves with the experience and knowledge of the centuries. Then at some point the Lord cursed this race of beings because of their great evil. According to the book of Enoch, a war broke out between them, and they began to destroy each other.
And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in battle: for length of days shall they not have.
And no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and that each one of them will live five hundred years.'
And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjâzâ and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness.
And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones … (Enoch ch. 10:9-12 Ethiopian version)
Those who survived the war of the Nephilim were destroyed by the waters of the flood. However, although their bodies were dead, the spirits continued to roam about on the earth (see Enoch ch.15:8-11).
As we can see, the evil spirits of the dead giants were doomed to a cursed existence on earth, awaiting judgment. The Lord mentioned them in his teachings:
“Now when an unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places looking for rest and doesn’t find it. Then it says, ‘I’ll go back home where I came from.’ And when it comes, it finds the house vacant, swept clean, and put in order. Then it goes and brings along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there. And that man’s last condition becomes worse than the first. So also will it be for this evil generation.”
(Matthew 12:43-45 TLV)
The Lord described how the process of a person's possession by an evil spirit takes place. As we already see, these spirits of the dead descendants of the Nephilim and fallen angels are looking for bodies through which they can manifest themselves in this world. Yeshua compared the soul and body of a person to a house. If such a spiritual home is not occupied with the presence of the Holy Spirit and the Lord, then for evil spirits this is a direct invitation. Often they can pass from generation to generation through the family line; thus, they are well aware of the lives of many people and their families. And when people go to a medium to summon the spirit of a dead person, then an evil spirit who had accompanied such a person through life comes instead. Sometimes evil spirits may have no connection at all with a dead soul; they just have a large information network with each other and can transfer information between themselves. In any case, these spirits of the dead are liars. They often give truth mixed with lies.
Therefore, in the Scriptures, there is a warning from God for us, so that we do not communicate with these spirits of the dead. Since such spirits are evil spirits and any information from them is like a poisoned drink, while the taste may seem pleasant, the consequences lead to death.
Many evil spirits are experts in human psychology. They have thousands of years of experience with people and often manipulate them. But, unfortunately, people, in their naivety, continue to communicate with such entities, and this often leads to sad consequences.
Others, especially from various secret organizations, come into direct contact with aliens or with the so-called extraterrestrial representatives. Such beings are another race of the spiritual world of darkness. Communicating with them is like communicating with demons; they are full of seduction, manipulation and deception. They can also give supernatural knowledge, extraterrestrial technology and even reveal some of the secrets of the surrounding world. However, they do it with limitations and not in full – only to the extent that it is beneficial to them. In fact, the entire kingdom of darkness deeply hates the human race and only tolerates those people with whom they communicate or use. They have no desire to share all the depths of the secrets of the spiritual world. They want to keep people in darkness and ignorance. Yes, they can "throw crumbs" of knowledge to those they already fully control; however, they hide a lot of details, without which it is impossible to fully understand the spiritual world. They regard us as ignorant tribes who have just seen a computer for the first time, and who, in principle, can be taught to use it primitively; however, they do not have any idea of the full potential of this technology, and how to produce such a complex device.
Evil spirits or creatures can even "predict the future" to some extent. In fact, such predictions are often performed by the agents of the kingdom of darkness themselves in order to seduce people.
For instance, one day my mother was stopped by a gypsy woman who was obviously being led by an unclean spirit. The gypsy woman pulled out a piece of her hair and told my mother that if she didn’t give her some money, her daughter would die in water. My mother, who still did not believe in God at that time, was frightened by this curse and gave money to the gypsy woman for a piece of her hair. Somewhere at the same time, I was with my grandmother at a place out in the country. A stream passed through it, deep enough for a small child to be submerged in it. At that time, I was only four years old. I was on the bridge over the stream when suddenly, someone pushed me into the water. However, there was no one around me that I could see. I started to sink, and then somehow grabbed the bridge and pulled myself out of the sticky, muddy bottom. Once I was out of the stream, I started crying, and only then did everyone find out about the incident. In order for my mother to believe the prediction of the gypsy woman, who through her ignorance became a vessel of evil spirits, the demons fulfilled the threat. They pushed me into the water, and I almost drowned. It was only by the grace of the Lord and by the supernatural power of my guardian angels that I survived this attack on my life. But this spiritual attack was not the first, or the last.
After this incident, one day I saw one of these evil spirits who followed me in an attempt to fulfill their dark plans. At that time, I did not even understand anything about spirits or demons. I was only four years old and was sitting on a couch in an apartment and playing with my dolls, my back turned to the window. Then I felt that someone was looking at me, so I turned around and saw a demon outside the window. We were on the second floor and there were no balconies that someone could climb into. I got scared and ran to my grandmother, telling her that the devil had appeared outside the window. The demon looked very ugly with horns on his head and a beastly expression on his face. When my grandmother went to check, no one was there.
The Lord has shown me many times in visions how in the kingdom of darkness special spirits are assigned to certain people in order to destroy them or to complicate their spiritual and physical life by any available methods. Very often, as I have already said, such spirits specialize in the generational lineage of the families that they influence. Those who worship other gods have open doors to evil spirits and are cursed until the fourth generation.
“I am Adonai your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. Do not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or on the earth below or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to them, do not let anyone make you serve them. For I, Adonai your God, am a jealous God, bringing the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing lovingkindness to the thousands of generations of those who love Me and keep My mitzvot. (Exodus 20:2-6 TLV)
Often, evil spirits pass from ancestors to descendants. Such spirits are called familiar spirits. They are often worshiped as the spirits of deceased ancestors in some pagan cultures. Some witnesses have described that sometimes a person who was heavily involved in the occult, witchcraft, or necromancy suffered greatly at the time of death. At the time of a host’s death, an evil spirit needs to find another body and is tormenting its host, causing anguish. He usually tries to move into another person who is close to the dying person, oftentimes either a relative, a follower, or a student. When the demon possesses the new body, the "gift" is also transferred from the person who is dying to the receiver. Often such spirits "jump" through the generation and, if possible, arrange their new home in the life of a young descendant.
It so happened that as we were going to prayer, we met a slave girl who had a spirit of divination, who was bringing her masters much profit from her fortune-telling. Following after Paul and us, she kept shouting, saying, “These men are servants of El Elyon, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.” She kept doing this for many days. But Paul was irritated and turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Messiah Yeshua to come out of her!” And it came out of her that very moment. (Acts 16:16-18 TLV)
So, we have now investigated that Scripture forbids us to communicate with the spirits of dead Nephilims and their descendants – or in other words, evil spirits. But what about the saints in heaven? Is it permissible for us to speak with them?
As I have already mentioned, the souls of saints do not communicate with mediums and necromancers. They can’t come into this world of their own accord when they are called upon by somebody from the earth. Likewise, prayers to dead saints are useless, since they do not hear them.
Prayer is a way of worship. We should only worship the Lord and pray only to Him. If someone prays to the saints, then they fall into the sin of worshiping people, lifting them up as an idol.
However, when the Lord has a special message, some saints can minister to people on earth as messengers of the Lord. They can bring a message or perform a certain ministry, and then go back to the Lord, like the angels in heaven.
An example of this is Moses, who met with Yeshua on the Mount of Transfiguration:
After six days, Yeshua takes with Him Peter and Jacob and John his brother, and brings them up a high mountain by themselves. Now He was transfigured before them; His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Yeshua.
(Matthew 17:1-3 TLV)
How does this happen? If the Lord fulfilled all the law of Moses and did not sin, then how could He communicate with the deceased Moses?
Some of my critics may try to say that Moses is not actually dead, just like Elijah. Somehow Moses is either resurrected or he never died. However, Scripture tells us very clearly that Moses did die.
Then Moses went up from the plains of Moab to Mount Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, which is opposite Jericho. … So Moses the servant of Adonai died there in the land of Moab, as was from the mouth of Adonai. Then He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor—but no one knows of his burial place to this day. Moses was 120 years old when he died. His eye was not dim nor his vigor gone. (Deuteronomy 34:1,5-7 TLV)
Could Moses be resurrected? The Bible does not say anything about this. There were some people who were resurrected from the dead before Yeshua’s death and resurrection, yet they always happened with the same physical bodies. Yeshua was the firstborn of the resurrection into a new glorified body.
He is the head of the body, His community. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead—so that He might come to have first place in all things.
(Colossians 1:18 TLV)
During His ministry on earth, Yeshua not only did not consider it sinful to communicate with the deceased Moses, but also He allowed His disciples to witness the Transfiguration. It should be noted that neither Peter, nor John, nor James were even embarrassed by the appearance of a dead saint speaking with the Lord. However, we also see that the Lord did not call Moses through a medium, did not pray to him, and did not perform special rituals. The Lord was accustomed to the ministry of angels, and perceived the appearance of Moses and Elijah like the ministry of messengers of God.
And He said, “Amen, amen I tell you, you will see heaven opened and the angels of God going up and coming down on the Son of Man!”
(John 1:51 TLV)
However, the Lord made it clear that He did not call upon the angels while He was on the earth. He only called upon the heavenly Father when He needed the ministry of angels.
Or do you suppose that I cannot call on My Father, and at once He will place at My side twelve legions of angels?
(Matthew 26:53 TLV)
Likewise, the apostle John, during his vision on the island of Patmos, received the ministry of the saints in heaven:
Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these dressed in white robes, and where have they come from?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” Then he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:13-14 TLV)
Here we see that one of the holy elders spoke to John, and John answered him in return. The Scripture confirms that the Lord permitted this on special occasions, through visions or manifestations of saints from heaven to serve those living on the earth, as it was with Yeshua and John. However, such a ministry cannot be invoked by means of a medium or any rituals, or even prayers to the saints. Saints from heaven minister to those living on earth similarly to how angels minister to people.
When I had heavenly meetings with the saints, they were always spontaneous and unexpected. Often they were the initiators of this and asked the Lord to allow them to meet with me. Initially, my relatives and friends were given the opportunity of these meetings. But such meetings are not repeated. From time to time I ask the Lord to tell my children who are in heaven that I love and miss them. Sometimes the Lord gives me news of the heavenly life of my children. On rare occasions they can come visit me for a short time, as they also miss me. But basically, if I see the saints in heavenly visions, either they are sent to me to minister to me, like angels, or I only observe their lives as a bystander.
There is one passage in the Scripture where the Lord describes God as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:
But concerning the dead being raised, haven’t you read in the book of Moses about the burning bush? How God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He’s not the God of the dead, but of the living. You have gone far astray!”
(Mark 12:26-27 TLV)
And indeed, those souls of the saints in heaven are only dead in the body, for in the spirit they are alive. Their spirits were resurrected or born again by the power of the Lord and by the blood of the Lamb, the Son of God.
In conclusion, let’s answer the question from the beginning: can the dead speak to us? The only way the deceased saints can speak to those on the earth is if they are sent by God to minister as His messengers. The spirits who speak through mediums and necromancers are the spirits of the dead Nephilim, or demonic spirits, who are pretending to be deceased people. Those who are from heaven are doing God's will; on the other hand, those who are contacted through mediums are from the kingdom of darkness, and the Bible tells us not to communicate with them.
In this article was used the Tree of Life Version of the Holy Scriptures (TLV)
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